We now have some new forum features which I would invite the pirate crew to test out before I release it on decent human beings.

* You can (indeed must) iteratively edit your postings, with a preview to show you what will be posted.

* Keyword classification: select an (optional) keyword which applies to this posting. Right now the choices are from th LIGO eLog, but I invite suggestions for pirate keywords.

* File attachments: you can upload an image or data file attached to your posting. To do so, check the "add attachment" box while composing, and then Preview your posting and further dialogue will appear.

Keep in mind that the files are uploaded to the server, they are not web links. You should only attach files which you have the right to copy or distribute (no warez or mp3's). Forum moderators will be able to hide inappropriate attachments, or delete them altogether.

This is the first draft, so we know there are bugs on board. Your job is to find them. If I don't hear yea or nay then I'll assume posting is really broken and revert to the old stuff. Otherwise, have at it.

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Looks like we've found our first bug!
(the images were all the same).

Fixed.

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Cool! :)
I want one of these things...



edit - signatures dont work in preview. I see the BB Code rather than the sig itself. Is this by design?



What is the keyword for?
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Also, the image seems to take a bit to load even after it has been loaded once.. almost like it is not caching?



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edit - signatures dont work in preview. I see the BB Code rather than the sig itself. Is this by design?

What is the keyword for?

Also, the image seems to take a bit to load even after it has been loaded once.. almost like it is not caching?

how's that for ya maties?! AAArghh!!

I chose 'microseism' ... mainly because I have no idea what that means!
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OK Captain Wormy... I wouldn't be myself if I didn't let you or your hired henchmen test the hide/delete attachment feature.
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Thanks for all the info guys! I like the new features... adding attachments could come in real handy!

Also, sig now works in preview.

cheers,

Paul
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Arr!

Wanted to see if I could quote an image, doesn't look promising.

Well, that and to ask if Augustine really is Charlie Sheen.

OK Captain Wormy... I wouldn't be myself if I didn't let you or your hired henchmen test the hide/delete attachment feature.

Yes, the features (especially the message preview) are working very nice.

I noticed that the user's description at the message's left side is a little bit loose, like half empty line between each of Forum/Project xxxxx, Joined, Posts, ID, From, Team, Credit & Rac lines. I liked it more packed together as like it was before.
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I noticed that the user's description at the message's left side is a little bit loose, like half empty line between each of Forum/Project xxxxx, Joined, Posts, ID, From, Team, Credit & Rac lines. I liked it more packed together as like it was before.

Pepo wrote:

I noticed that the user's description at the message's left side is a little bit loose, like half empty line between each of [....] lines. I liked it more packed together as like it was before.

Good eye, sailor. I've been tweaking the CSS and that seems to have affected that table too. I'll add that to the buglist.

I chose 'microseism' ... mainly because I have no idea what that means!

An I noticed also the quote=someone addition, fine too. Seems not to be automatic though.

And, will the preview and attachment etc. work also while editing an existing post too?

Also, the image seems to take a bit to load even after it has been loaded once.. almost like it is not caching?

Arrr... Lemme see these new fetch'rs lad!

DAQ... well QAD actually is a project for which I've been doing some CAD design recently.
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Arrr!

(Enclosing a word in double square brackets (thus: [[ microseism ]] ) makes a link to the glossary wiki.
(For other BOINC projects the link is to the BOINC wiki -- try it))

OK Captain Wormy... I wouldn't be myself if I didn't let you or your hired henchmen test the hide/delete attachment feature.

Arr. Where'd I put that treasure at ?
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OK Captain Wormy... I wouldn't be myself if I didn't let you or your hired henchmen test the hide/delete attachment feature.

I knew I could count on you.

(Not that I have anything against Captain Underpants. As a captain myself, I have always given him my colegeal respect. ;-)

OK Captain Wormy... I wouldn't be myself if I didn't let you or your hired henchmen test the hide/delete attachment feature.

LOL Have the paragons of virtue been around? ;-D

I think I'll let my little Bouncer Jupiter, which I usually leave ashore whilst sailing with the Cap'n on the 7 seas hunting for treasures, get a little stay here on the ship. Just untill we sail out again...

EDIT: I forgot to add Arrrrr...

Sorry :-(

This should be a little better now.

Rusty wrote:

This should be a little better now.

Seems to be!

yarrr :)

Arrrrhhh


I would like to post this:
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Indeed I typed RAC at the seti mb and it provided a link to RAC in the wiki. Unfortunately, it's to Paul's old defunct address. http://boinc-doc.net/boinc-wiki/index.php?title=rac LOL

We now have some new forum features which I would invite the pirate crew to test out before I release it on decent human beings.

Nicely pirated feature:

[TRIM_THIS_quote=someone]Quoted[TRIM_THIS_/quote] for quoted blocks of text, citing quoted author

Thinking about making this the default behavior? Aye!

Contact wrote:

Nicely pirated feature:

[TRIM_THIS_quote=someone]Quoted[TRIM_THIS_/quote] for quoted blocks of text, citing quoted author

Thinking about making this the default behavior? Aye!

Thought about it, and did it.

Wormholio wrote:

Contact wrote:

Nicely pirated feature:

someone wrote:

Quoted

for quoted blocks of text, citing quoted author

Thinking about making this the default behavior? Aye!

Thought about it, and did it.

Quoting a quote looks okay.
This should be implemented on all BOINC forums! So should the post preview, but i'm guessin' it's not kind to server bandwidth.

Contact wrote:

Wormholio wrote:

Contact wrote:

Nicely pirated feature:

someone wrote:

Quoted

for quoted blocks of text, citing quoted author

Thinking about making this the default behavior? Aye!

Thought about it, and did it.

Quoting a quote looks okay.
This should be implemented on all BOINC forums! So should the post preview, but i'm guessin' it's not kind to server bandwidth.

I've seen multiple quoting over at SETI an it can be quite distracting. The more nested quotes the worse it gets.

EDIT: Wonder if it will stretch the thread?

Here's the thread http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=32984#387652
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Trog Dog wrote:

Contact wrote:

Wormholio wrote:

Contact wrote:

Nicely pirated feature:

someone wrote:

Quoted

for quoted blocks of text, citing quoted author

Thinking about making this the default behavior? Aye!

Thought about it, and did it.

Quoting a quote looks okay.
This should be implemented on all BOINC forums! So should the post preview, but i'm guessin' it's not kind to server bandwidth.

I've seen multiple quoting over at SETI an it can be quite distracting. The more nested quotes the worse it gets.

EDIT: Wonder if it will stretch the thread?

No - just elongates it.

At 1024x768 it is stretching the thread.
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Its stretched now at 1280x800 on my laptop.
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The margin and padding on blockquote (in the CSS) is what's causing the stretch. Try replacing the CSS with something like this:

blockquote.postbody {
border: 2px inset blue;
background-color: #f0f0ff;
margin:0; padding:.5em;
font-style: oblique;
}

The margin and padding on blockquote (in the CSS) is what's causing the stretch. Try replacing the CSS with something like this:

Wiki wrote:

As used at LIGO, microseism generally referes to a bandwidth limited seismic channel between the frequency ranges of 0.1 and 0.3 Hertz.

Huh?

I've just noticed, while writing a message: when I select any Keyword, the message editor's preview part gets suddenly narrower, only half width of the browser's window (the same as the edit box). If I deselect the Keyword, the preview part is again much wider than the edit box.
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What I notice is that this thread loads really slowly, even on my highspeed internet connection. 33 seconds to load 50 posts is not something to look forward to when the thread gets bigger.

Is that an effect of the server, or the forum code?

Also, when having done a preview already, then chosing a keyword, I have to do another preview before I can post. A bit too much.

Lastly, what's with the broken avatars?
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What I notice is that this thread loads really slowly, even on my highspeed internet connection. 33 seconds to load 50 posts is not something to look forward to when the thread gets bigger.

Is that an effect of the server, or the forum code?

Also, when having done a preview already, then chosing a keyword, I have to do another preview before I can post. A bit too much.

Lastly, what's with the broken avatars?

Ageless wrote:

Lastly, what's with the broken avatars?

Avatars or signatures?

Ageless wrote:

What I notice is that this thread loads really slowly, even on my highspeed internet connection. 33 seconds to load 50 posts is not something to look forward to when the thread gets bigger.

Is that an effect of the server, or the forum code?

Neither. It seems to be hanging waiting for all the stat blocks in signatures to load. I am not sure how those sites work, but it seems that the images they generate don't get cached.

2. Each preview results in reloading all of the other posts, which takes quite a time for long threads.
3. As other pointed out the images seems not to get cached.

P.S: How about adding an option to preview again when editing a post?

I've just noticed, while writing a message: when I select any Keyword, the message editor's preview part gets suddenly narrower, only half width of the browser's window (the same as the edit box). If I deselect the Keyword, the preview part is again much wider than the edit box.

Also, when having done a preview already, then chosing a keyword, I have to do another preview before I can post. A bit too much.

Ageless wrote:

Also, when having done a preview already, then chosing a keyword, I have to do another preview before I can post. A bit too much.

This has been fixed. You are still required to preview at least once, but selecting a keyword does not hide the post button as it used to.

I have adjusted the cache parameters for the attachments, which I hope will improve the speed of loading the thread.

Wormholio wrote:

I have adjusted the cache parameters for the attachments, which I hope will improve the speed of loading the thread.

It's gone down from 33-35 seconds at 50 posts to 23-25 seconds at 60+ posts. The speedlog doesn't lie, Captain. :)

Avatars are broken all over the board again, though. All showing a "no-loading" image icon.

BUT! when repeatedly previewing new post, the html code for the whole page took again the 5 seconds to start and finish,

...I've noticed only 2-3 other items to download ( all from mundayweb :) which took up to 5 seconds.

Is it possible for these sites to also control their "expire" headers so that they are not constantly reloaded? Does anybody here have any connections with these sites?

I am seeing avatars here, but I've just set the expire time explicitly, which might help with caching those as well.

Pepo wrote:

BUT! when repeatedly previewing new post, the html code for the whole page took again the 5 seconds to start and finish,

I'm now testing this, by turning off the display of the entire (possibly much too long) thread when one composes a reply.

I'm now behind an unfriendly proxy...

Pepo wrote:

I'm now behind an unfriendly proxy...

I'll say. E-mail to you from the subscription service, and from me, is bounced back saying

550 Access denied

Somebody's ISP is afraid of pirates?

Whahey, it works.

Sig loading is also slow here....

Avatars are working no bother

Not loading the whole thread in preview is a far beter idea!

edit - After preview, any chance you could put the "post" button closed to the preview? its hidden away on the right hand side of the page under the Keyword drop down...

edit 2! - problem? the botton of the longer sigs is cut off....
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Opera reports the entire size of this page to be 1.2 Mb... that sound right? seems high to me...
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edit 2! - problem? the botton of the longer sigs is cut off....

Fair enough on the sigs... doesnt bother me! (edit - if they are cut that is!!)

This may be an issue ... or at least something to note... Opera is reporting this thread size, including images as 1.2MB. A bit of further playing around and I can see that the vast majority of this data is coming from pirates.spy-hill.net.

There is a little from a couple of other sites... but certainly 60 or 70% of the load time is all coming from pirates....
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Wormholio wrote:

E-mail to you from the subscription service, and from me, is bounced back saying

550 Access denied

Somebody's ISP is afraid of pirates?

No, this must be two separate issues. The e-mail server ... should not (and did previously not) deny any access from friendly pirates' page - or because of some changes or system settings I am not (and would like to be) aware of. I've now subscribed to another 2 threads and will wait... (would like to solve any e-mail problem here).

There is a little from a couple of other sites... but certainly 60 or 70% of the load time is all coming from pirates....

Ageless wrote:

Whahey, it works.

Is this H.'s pirate ship?

Eric, I got an answer from Neil Munday:

"Hi Jord,

As the images are created dynamically (i.e. on the fly), so the user's browser's won't cache the images (as far as I know).

I have plans to introduce static images to reduce the need for my mirror sites and only updates user's graphics on a daily basis or when they make a config change.

I have written most of the code for this, but alas, I haven't had time recently to finish it off.

To be honest though, the fetching of the stats etc takes microseconds. It's more likely that the slow performance is a result of the user's PC having to download all the graphics.

Hope this helps,

Neil."

(PS: I had to preview this text twice before I could post it!)
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Is this H.'s pirate ship?

Yes, it is. :-)

Can you identify any particular files/images which are responsible?

Eric, I got an answer from Neil Munday:

"As the images are created dynamically (i.e. on the fly), so the user's browser's won't cache the images (as far as I know)...

Is this file "/view/3639-sp_gold_one_cs_gif.gif" particularly big?

Well I guess that pic wasnt the problem then!!


cheers!

Paul.


note (written in preview 1) - still have to preview twice?!

preview 2 - now I can post! :)
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E-mail to you from the subscription service, and from me, is bounced back saying "550 Access denied". Somebody's ISP is afraid of pirates?

The e-mail server ... should not (and did previously not) deny any access from friendly pirates' page. ... (I would like to solve any e-mail problem here).

Capt'n, you're right. I definitely do not get announcements for new messages posted in the threads. Feels like with both eyes hidden X-(

note (written in preview 1) - still have to preview twice?!

preview 2 - now I can post! :)

All good!

Thanks! :)


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I don't know where else to ask this so I'll ask here. What are the Dubloons for under people's names? How high can it go?
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I don't know where else to ask this so I'll ask here. What are the Dubloons for under people's names? How high can it go?

Look under my RAC.
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Aye Mateys, Thar be fer when your are Pirate of the Day. Yer gets one Gold Dubloon each time ye become one.

Cheers,
G^R

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Aye Mateys, Thar be fer when your are Pirate of the Day. Yer gets one Gold Dubloon each time ye become one.

Thanks matey!
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Me just have seen capt'n secretly cut off the long pirate name feature.
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Me just have seen capt'n secretly cut off the long pirate name feature.

When we speek of bugs, take a look at the messages (in this thread. e.g. 3530), which has a picture attached to it. If I observe a thread with such message (with IE7), the beginning of the message text is pressed to some inch on the left side of the message frame, while flowing to the left of the attached picture and uses then the whole message frame width under the picture.

While editing a new message, I've noiced that the messages with pictures are formated correctly. Except that this thread is tooo stretched horizontally, although no "offending" pictures or text can be seen.
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Where is the disclaimer that says I am always right?
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Where is the disclaimer that says I am always right?

I even missed the 100th post! :/
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Did I catch it? Well, and I've missed that point! .-P
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We now have a minor new feature in the forums. If you are subscribed to a thread, when you receive the notification it will include the text of the post (or the first 100 characters, if it's longer than than).

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You aren't spending enough on internet bandwidth? ;-)
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You aren't spending enough on internet bandwidth? ;-)