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I noticed, taht forum has some problems with displaying Polish chcaracters
---> Zażółć gęślą jaźń.
(This is probably the sentence with most possible number of non-standard characters ;) )
There are no such problems on teams' pages for example:
http://pirates.spy-hill.net/team_display.php?teamid=121
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I noticed, taht forum has some problems with displaying Polish chcaracters
---> Zażółć gęślą jaźń.
(This is probably the sentence with most possible number of non-standard characters ;) )
There are no such problems on teams' pages for example:
http://pirates.spy-hill.net/team_display.php?teamid=121
Noted for the log. I do know that the message boards go through an extra layer of sanitization, which may affect the display (only). As I'm writing this I can see in the quoted text what looks like the correct sentence.
I don't have an immediate fix but we will watch this thread as we upgrade to BOINC 5.3, and beyond...
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I don't have an immediate fix but we will watch this thread as we upgrade to BOINC 5.3, and beyond...
Aye!
Indeed it looks all right when quotin'
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Not necessarily a board problem. I'm pretty certain it won't display characters that aren't in your Windows font.
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Not necessarily a board problem. I'm pretty certain it won't display characters that aren't in your Windows font.
The problem is, it splits one character in two. In the sentence above, word 'zażółć' has 6 letters, 4 of them special. If you count characters being displayed, you'll notice there are 10 characters, 8 of them speical. It seems like encoding problem to me. It may be conected with 16bit unicode standard, but this is my guessing.
On the other hand, I know how Polish letters look, when displayed with non CE (Central Europe) font. They sure don't look like these.
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I switched through all character sets that I have on my browser, none of them shows it right. Encoding it as HTML character entities will be the best solution as it's independant from the character sets then.
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A trick made them appear : I switched the input page to ISO-8859-1 before I typed them. I wonder if that would be a quick bugfix ?
Without switching to 8859 it looks a little not so nice either : äöüÄÖÜß
For SZTAKI this is a very massive problem btw., it would be really good if there was a way to solve it. I will test something in the next post ...
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BOINC jest skr�tem od Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing, co można przełożyć na "Otwarta Infrastruktura Przetwarzania Rozproszonego uniwersytetu Berkeley". Jest to projekt mający na celu wykorzystanie wolnego czasu komputer�w osobistych do obliczeń zwiazanych z r�żnymi projektami badawczymi.
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Az MTA SZTAKI Elosztott Rendszerek Oszt�lya �ltal k�sz�tett SZTAKI Sz�t�r a magyar web legkedveltebb ingyenes sz�t�r szolg�ltat�sa. A SZTAKI Sz�t�r 1995-ben, a magyar web első interakt�v szolg�ltat�sai k�z�tt indult egy angol-magyar sz�t�rral �s heti 3500 l�togat�val. 2005-ben m�r 6 sz�t�rral �s napi +90.000 l�togat�ssal (+700.000 oldal let�lt�s [PI] - Webaudit adatok) n�pszerű napilapok on-line kiad�saival �s tematikus port�lok forgalm�val vetekszik. |
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I will try to make few own attempts with text, which belongs to Central European, Latin2 - source of this text was Win-1250:
Samotn� n�zov je skratkou z anglick�ho "Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing", �o sa d� vo�ne prelo�i� ako "Otvoren� infra�tukr�ra pre sie�ov� v�po�ty z Berkeley". Berkeley je univerzita v Kalifornii v Spojen�ch �t�toch, ktor� tento softv�r vyvinula a aj nada�ej ho zdokonaluje. BOINC je od za�iatku softv�r typu Open-Source, �i�e ka�d� m��e nahliadnu� do jeho zdrojov�ch k�dov pr�p. ho modifikova� alebo vylep�i�.
BOINC je softv�r �peci�lne vyvinut� pre r�zne vedeck� vysoko v�po�tovo n�ro�n� distribuovan� v�po�ty, vyu��vaj�ci dobrovo�ne poskytnut� zdroje po��ta�ov pripojen�ch na internet.
Let's see how it will look like... (excuse me, I'm still editing the same message over and over)
Writing in IE, page encoding set to Unicode: No, sucks. No way to display it correctly.
Now the same text, IE switched to "Central European (Windows)" while editing: When manually setting "Central European (Windows)" encoding while viewing, it's nearly good, but few characters are wrong. The same in Netscape.
Another attempt, setting page encoding to Unicode and trying to paste that text possibly as correct Unicode text (copied to and then from MS Word): Wrong when viewed with any encoding.
Last attempt, as Ananas suggested, setting the browser to "Wester European (ISO-8859-1)" encoding and pasting unicode textin the edit window: Similar to the first attempt, text is overall good, but few characters are wrong.
Could it be, that the edit pane keeps some other encoding? Ananas, how did you succeed????
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I don't have an immediate fix but we will watch this thread as we upgrade to BOINC 5.3, and beyond...
Try editing http://pirates.spy-hill.net/language_select.php ... It's what it's there for. Mchl may want to test the link on his Polish setup.
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I clicked "reply", then immediately switched to ISO-8859-1 in Mozilla (maybe IE handles it different?).
My Mozilla is an English version, accept_language is .en .de to avoid receiving weird translations ;-) For the same reason I have choosen to have all BOINC projects in English.
Then I went to http://szotar.sztaki.hu/index.hu.jhtml and stole some text (Clipboard/Ctrl+C) like
�ltal k�sz�tett SZTAKI Sz�t�r
and some more text from http://www.boincatpoland.org/ :
można przełożyć
The text I copied has been inserted with Ctrl+V, not mouse.
My Win2k is a German version with German language and keyboard settings
When I go to "edit", the text looks weird first, as soon as I switch to this ISO set, it looks OK again.
p.s.: Trying the same in the SZTAKI board failed btw., so it is not a good solution, depending on too many factors. It's probably better to experiment with htmlentities() using the default ISO-8859-1 (or better 8859-15 for � � � and such) for it and for the 3 input pages. |
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Ananas, your text (all of it) shows up correctly in UTF-8 code (Unicode).
Mozilla Seamonkey 1.5 Alpha here.
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Please check my profile, I did the same there.
The first lines (.de and .fr characters) I wrote with the keyboard,the others with copy/paste as I don't have those funny things on the keyboard (and wouldn't know how to use them) ;-)
I've got one Win2k installation with an original .fi keyboard (a friend needed it) so if it makes any sense, I can test that too sometimes.
p.s.: if I use UTF-8 on the input page, it does not show what I typed later so it's probably the routine that stores the stuff in the database converting it somehow. A MySQL database probably does have a character set setting that you decide during the installation.
p.p.s.: this is the line from the start of this thread, input in ISO
---> Zaż�łć gęślą jaźń.
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Ananas, could you please make another attempt, with texts from http://www.boinc.sk/ page?
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Samotn� n�zov je skratkou z anglick�ho "Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing", čo sa d� voľne prelo�iť ako "Otvoren� infra�tukr�ra pre sieťov� v�počty z Berkeley". Berkeley je univerzita v Kalifornii v Spojen�ch �t�toch, ktor� tento softv�r vyvinula a aj nadaľej ho zdokonaluje. BOINC je od začiatku softv�r typu Open-Source, či�e ka�d� m��e nahliadnuť do jeho zdrojov�ch k�dov pr�p. ho modifikovať alebo vylep�iť.
BOINC je softv�r �peci�lne vyvinut� pre r�zne vedeck� vysoko v�počtovo n�ročn� distribuovan� v�počty, vyu��vaj�ci dobrovoľne poskytnut� zdroje poč�tačov pripojen�ch na internet. Samotn� my�lienka distribuovan�ho v�počtu vznikla na z�klade potreby extr�mneho v�počtov�ho v�konu. Superpoč�tače - veľmi v�konn� poč�tače na tieto �lohy u� nedostačuj� a tak sa p�vodne veľk� v�počtov� �loha rozdel� na veľk� počet mal�ch samostatn�ch jednotiek, ktor� potom analyzuj� mili�ny poč�tačov ľud� (teda aj v�s!) na celom svete.
BOINC bol od začiatku vyv�jan� ako multiprojektov�, čo znamen�, �e sa m��ete zapojiť do viacer�ch projektov s�časne. Vyberiete si projekt, na ktorom sa budete chcieť podielať a takisto si vyberiete, koľko zo syst�mov�ch prostriedkov Va�eho poč�tača či poč�tačov budete chcieť na konkr�tny projekt poskytn�ť. Budete sa m�cť rovnak�m sp�sobom zapojiť do hľadania mimozemsk�ch civiliz�ci� (SETI@home), �t�die glob�lneho oteplovania (Climateprediction.net), hľadania gravitačn�ch vĺn vo vesm�re (Einstein@Home), m��ete pom�cť pri stavbe najv�č�ieho ur�chlovača čast�c na svete (LHC@Home), pri v�skume �trukt�ry biomolek�l (Predictor@Home) alebo do in�ho vedecko-technick�ho v�skumu s�časne.
Or Swedish maybe?
F�r n�rvarade s� finns inget p� sidan som ni ser... Men om det �r n�gon som �r intresserad av att l�gga upp information om olika projekt som finns under BOINC s� skicka g�rna en rad till mig s� kan vi snacka om det.
Jag har sj�lv planer p� funktioner som jag vill skall finnas h�r, men jag har tyv�rr inte haft tid att jobba med dom. Hur som helst s� vill jag i alla fall rekommendera ett projekt som heter: climateprediction.net
Jag har skapat ett svenskt BOINC team d�r som heter "Sweden" G� g�rna med d�r genom att skapa ett konto h�r.
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Новостное агентство LENTA.RU сообщает, что NASA говит проект, отдаленно напоминающий проект РВ.
" Специалисты космического агентства NASA, ожидающие прибытия аппарата Stardust с образцами звездной пыли 15 января, объявили о поиске добровольцев для нового проекта. Желающие поучаствовать в проекте Stardust@home смогут помочь в поиске частиц звездной пыли, собранных "пылесборником" аппарата, передает DPA. Для этого, пояснили организаторы проекта на собрании Американского астрономического общества во вторник, им понадобится подключение к Интернету и специальная бесплатная программа.
Поиск звездной пыли будет более интерактивным процессом, так как добровольцам предстоит тщательно рассматривать снимки поверхности уловителя на предмет пробоин, оставленных частицами внеземного вещества. Специальный микроскоп автоматически отсканирует всю площадь поверхности пористого вещества в уловителе и сделает около 1,5 миллиона снимков, каждый из которых будет отправлен на изучение четырем участникам программы.
Всем желающем принять участие в проекте будет направлено тестовое задание. В качестве награды за выполненную работу NASA предоставляет добровольцам право давать имя найденным им частицам звездной пыли. Если приземление капсулы с образцами, собранными аппаратом Stardust, пройдет успешно, то снимки "виртуального микроскопа" будут доступны пользователям Интернета в середине марта. ... |
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�-)
that last one was from boinc.ru so it seems to cover quite a wide range of sets
Let's try one more :
Welcome BOINC@JP
このサイトはBOINC(Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing)についての日本語フォーラムを提供しています。こちらより自由に参加下さい。
現在稼動中のプロジェクトは以下のサイトを参考にしてください。
* Climateprediction.net: 気候変動研究
* Einstein@home: パルサーから飛んでくる重力の信号を探索
* LHC@home: CERN LHC 粒子加速器についての設計を改善
* Predictor@home: 蛋白質に関する病気を研究
* SETI@home: 地球外生命の証拠となる電波を探索
* Cell Computing 科学やエンターテイメントなど様々なテーマの大規模計算問題の解決を目指す
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hm ... the Japanese one looked good with Firefox@work but shows only ???'s with Mozilla@home. I guess Firefox comes with some sets installed that the Mozilla suite doesn't have yet |
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The Russian cyrillic text seems to be correct, no wrong characters observed here, but the Slovak one is not. I tried different viewing encodings, but it did't help.
There are few wrong characters, you can check yourself with the source page, it is evident.
The first one I noticed on all places is "z" with reversed "^" over it, in Windows (Unicode) called "Latin Letter Z With Caron", I don't know how in X-Windows. It was replaced by something like "_,".
Another one is "Latin Letter S With Caron", this character seems to be replaced with something (double dot horizontally over the character position) which is called "Diaeresis" or also "Umlaut" in German language.
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Yes, the russian text is correct. |
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Try editing http://pirates.spy-hill.net/language_select.php ... It's what it's there for. Mchl may want to test the link on his Polish setup.
Comments to this page, from my point of view:
There should be these two (or three) choices there (it is actually valid for all Boinc projects, usually there is "cs | Czech" as choice):
cz | Czech (Cestina)
sk | Slovak (Slovencina) (I'm not able to write local names correctly)
cs | ( ) - hard to say, there was no such common language, the shortcut was valid until some 15 years ago when Czechoslovakia was split into separate Czech and Slovak republiks.
But both czech and slovak languages share very similar latin alphabets from the same code page (Central European, ISO-8859-1 or Windows-1250).
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I cannot make those with caron (think it's called Haschek here), tried several character sets, even ISO-8859-2 which should contain them didn't do the job - sorry, I cannot help with those, I guess something has to be done in the PHP and/or database scripts to fix that.
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[quote]But both czech and slovak languages share very similar latin alphabets from the same code page (Central European, ISO-8859-1 or Windows-1250).
Excuse me, please, I'm blind and wrong: ISO-8859-2. (Too late to edit my post.)
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Yet another attempt - alphabet, #1:
a��bcčdďe�fghi�jklľĺmnňo��pqrŕs�tťu�vwxy�z�
A��BCČDĎE�FGHI�JKLĽĹMNŇO��PQRŔS�TŤU�VWXY�Z�
That's it. Let's see...
Pou��vejte BBCode tagy pro form�tov�n� Va�eho textu
Používejte BBCode tagy pro formátování Vašeho textu
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The only way is to write under Western ISO-8859-1 mode and then also view the message under some non-UTF8 mode. But still the S and Z characters are wrong.
While editing in the Western ISO mode all characters are correct.
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Seems like I missed some time here...
Now writing in UTF-8 mode (s*cks)
Now writing in ISO-8859-2 (still wrong, but the characters displayed, where those I'am used to, when reading ISO-8859-2 text in 8859-1 encoding)
Now writing in ISO-8859-1 (wrong)
Now writing in Windows-1280 (same result as above)
Now writing in what is described as 'Windows - Western Europe'
-> ��ʣ�ӏ� ��곜�
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Back to UTF-8...
With my last try I generated some kind of error I suppose.
When I tried to edit my post, I got some HTML into edit window, and bottom of the page (together with 'Submit' button) did not display...
This is what I got:
?Ɗ??ӏ? ?檳?/textarea>
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[url=/]Home[/url]
[url=/forum_help_desk.php]Help Desk[/url]
[url=/forum_index.php]Message Boards[/url]
[url=/server_status.php]Server Status[/url]
[url=/home.php]Your Account[/url]
[url=http://pirates.spy-hill.net/]Return to Pirates@Home main
page[/url]
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Something with text encoding seems to be fixed now (maybe with the 5.x series?) so I'll try to post SK alphabet once more, to see...
aáäbcčdďeéfghiíjklľĺmnňoóôpqrŕsštťuúvwxyýzž
AÁÄBCČDĎEÉFGHIÍJKLĽĹMNŇOÓÔPQRŔSŠTŤUÚVWXYÝZŽ
Yes, is fine now!
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abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzæøå
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZÆØÅ
Danish is fine also. :-)
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