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So it seems that this Wish List is the best place to discuss changes or additions to the forums. Some have already posted some good suggestions. | |
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I'm wondering if we should not turn off image display in signatures? I know some are very fond of their scoreboards, but maybe those move to the profile text? We may try that here, though I'm sure that would make the crew very restless. Arrgh. Since this is easy to do, may as well go to the top of the list. This shouldn't make us anymore restless than we arrr already. Many have chosen not to display images for various reasons anyway. Maybe you can show thumbnails of attachments in the sig section, or in a table at the top of the page. Or both. ____________ ![]() Click and enter your name for your BOINC Statistics | |
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THat is one reason I thought of disabling images in signatures -- because there would also be thumbnails of attached images down there. Now I'm thinking that the thumbnails (clickable to open the image) would to to the right side, but I still like the idea of cleaning up the signatures, so I think we will try it at some point, when I can code the conversion. ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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Show images as links... ;) | |
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To be honest I don't see the point in turning off image dsplay in sigs, that option is alrady built into the forums for people who don't want to see them. | |
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To be honest I don't see the point in turning off image dsplay in sigs, that option is alrady built into the forums for people who don't want to see them.In the context of an academic message board, it might prove to be a Good Thing. Alternately, if it's an internal board, having the graphics be loaded to the server (like the avatar pics here now), possibly the ability to require approval before display or linking, might be desireable. MJ ____________ Hail, Poetry, thou heav'n-born maid! Thou gildest e'en the pirate's trade. Hail, flowing fount of sentiment! Hail, all hail, divine emollient! | |
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To be honest I don't see the point in turning off image dsplay in sigs, that option is alrady built into the forums for people who don't want to see them. Right now you have the option of turning off signatures completely. I'm proposing the intermediate step of not allowing graphic images in signatures. They would only be short text. Part of the motivation is that if we have attachments (figures and graphs, as in a lab book) then it starts to get very busy, and confusing (though I'm thinking of putting the attachment thumbnails on the right edge), and perhaps slow to load. And then there are social considerations which might cause one to want to disable all images. Perhaps as an option for each forum room, set by the 'owner' of the room (who is like a forum moderator, but limited to a particular forum). ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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In the context of an academic message board, it might prove to be a Good Thing. That is another good reason. Then we have to think about how it is managed without undue burden on the people who administer the whole site. Just don't allow any? Or have a forum moderator (the teacher?) who can control the settings on a per-room basis? We need something that scales well. Alternately, if it's an internal board, having the graphics be loaded to the server (like the avatar pics here now), possibly the ability to require approval before display or linking, might be desireable. This might be a compromise. But who reviews it? Right now profiles are reviewed and approved by the site manager (me), and won't be chosen as user of the day unless approved (right, Misfit!). For a slowly growing BOINC project that seems to work okay. But now put this in a classroom setting where a huge number of new students join the site at the begining of a semester, and some rowdy subset of them decides to put inappropriate material in their sig or profile. Central review of the material would be a burden, and besides, who decides what is appropriate? So we may need to find a way (I have some ideas) to distribute the review role to a subset of participants (such as the teachers). ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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To be honest I don't see the point in turning off image dsplay in sigs, that option is alrady built into the forums for people who don't want to see them. The option to show images as links also effects signatures. Right now profiles are reviewed and approved by the site manager (me), and won't be chosen as user of the day unless approved (right, Misfit!). Can't we all just get along? ;) ____________ ![]() | |
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Since this would be used in a classroom environment, the ability for the forum moderator to add flagged "announcement" posts in addition to flagged "sticky" posts. | |
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Since this would be used in a classroom environment, the ability for the forum moderator to add flagged "announcement" posts in addition to flagged "sticky" posts. I guess I don't yet know how 'sticky' posts (threads actually, right) behave. In addition to forum discussions we will also be using a wiki for FAQ kinds of things, but it might be useful to have some kind of announcement or status at the top of each thread. Though maybe people will get so used to it they won't look at it? So what exactly does sticky do? ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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all a sticky does is keep a particular topic stuck to the top of a message board ____________ Join us in Chat (see the forum) Click the Sig ![]() Join UBT | |
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I guess I don't yet know how 'sticky' posts (threads actually, right) behave. As mentioned, it keeps the thread stuck to the top of a particular forum index page. Announcements do the exact same thing but can be used differently and with both types, allow for more flexiblilty for the moderator to highlight a thread for short term items such as "Read this for the test" to be flagged as an announcement while allowing longer term threads like "Interesting Reading Material" to be flagged as a sticky. Both would be highlighted at the top of the forum topic list but different icons would be used to identify them. I've just found from running a board on another site, that has both, that stickies tend to be ignored after awhile unless you need the information contained in the thread while announcements do get read. ____________ ![]() | |
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Right now profiles are reviewed and approved by the site manager (me), and won't be chosen as user of the day unless approved (right, Misfit!). For a slowly growing BOINC project that seems to work okay. But now put this in a classroom setting where a huge number of new students join the site at the begining of a semester, and some rowdy subset of them decides to put inappropriate material in their sig or profile. Central review of the material would be a burden, and besides, who decides what is appropriate? So we may need to find a way (I have some ideas) to distribute the review role to a subset of participants (such as the teachers). I thought the profiles had a facility where if a user feels the profile is offensive they can click on a link to flag it to some admin person to take a look at surely that would be the best and let the users decide what is and is not offensive ____________ Join us in Chat (see the forum) Click the Sig ![]() Join UBT | |
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How about giving back the option to sort newest posts first? | |
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How about giving back the option to sort newest posts first? I wanted to try it out with just listing from oldest to newest. The reason is that this is how a scientific logbook is organized (or indeed a ship's log). I would like students to get used to viewing the log that way. There is a forum preference that will take you right to the first *new* post, but then you read them in the proper order. It's a test, as is everything here, and maybe there is a better way to accomplish the goal? ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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One more thing I think might be useful. | |
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One more thing I think might be useful. This is a good point, though I find that the thing that slows thread loading the most is all the various signature images. If we allow uploading of attached images (graphs for lab reports, for example) we could have a thumbnail on the right side, and you'd have to open it to see it. The thumbnails would be on our server, and they would be relatively small, so they would load faster. Still, forum listings by thread can be broken into pages, and maybe threads should be too. Thanks. ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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One more thing I think might be useful. Just in case you're not aware, the newer versions of the software being used by some of the other projects already does something sort of like this. Rather than multiple pages including all the older posts, it shows only the newer ones. The numbers are user adjustable for the number of posts to hit the trigger, and then the number that display if the trigger is met. The default numbers are to trigger for any thread with 100 or more posts and then display only the first post and the last 75. After the first post, it inserts a message like "Only the first post and the last 75 posts (of the 128 posts in this thread) are displayed. Click here to also display the remaining posts." EDIT - On further thought, this might defeat your whole idea of wanting to keep things working like a journal, unless you wanted to consider this feature the equivalent of putting a paperclip on the first several pages of your journal. ____________ I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies | |
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Just in case you're not aware, the newer versions of the software being used by some of the other projects already does something sort of like this. Rather than multiple pages including all the older posts, it shows only the newer ones. The numbers are user adjustable for the number of posts to hit the trigger, and then the number that display if the trigger is met. The default numbers are to trigger for any thread with 100 or more posts and then display only the first post and the last 75. After the first post, it inserts a message like "Only the first post and the last 75 posts (of the 128 posts in this thread) are displayed. Click here to also display the remaining posts." I was not aware of this. Do you mean newer BOINC software on running current projects (not tests, like Janus's), or discussion forums on team sites (I just recently learned that they also have their own discussion forums). If it's newer code in BOINC we'll be trying it soon. EDIT - On further thought, this might defeat your whole idea of wanting to keep things working like a journal, unless you wanted to consider this feature the equivalent of putting a paperclip on the first several pages of your journal I think that is a fine feature, and I like the paperclip analogy. I don't even mind being able to show messages in a different order, as long as it's not the default. It might be that certain threads (with "LOGBOOK" in the title?) can only be displayed in time order, but others have other features. We have to find the right feature set that supports the mission. ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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Just in case you're not aware, the newer versions of the software being used by some of the other projects already does something sort of like this. Rather than multiple pages including all the older posts, it shows only the newer ones. The numbers are user adjustable for the number of posts to hit the trigger, and then the number that display if the trigger is met. The default numbers are to trigger for any thread with 100 or more posts and then display only the first post and the last 75. After the first post, it inserts a message like "Only the first post and the last 75 posts (of the 128 posts in this thread) are displayed. Click here to also display the remaining posts." Yep! Some of us have turned it off, but in this thread it's necessary. I don't remember what the default is, but I only see the last 500 posts. ____________ [color=navy][size=12][b]Those who can, do.
Those who can't, bully.[/b][/size][/color] From here | |
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Yep! Some of us have turned it off, but in this thread it's necessary. I don't remember what the default is, but I only see the last 500 posts. :-) So at SETI@Home the last post is a big thing. On slashdot it's the first post that's a big thing. To each his own. Thanks. :-) ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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Yep! Some of us have turned it off, but in this thread it's necessary. I don't remember what the default is, but I only see the last 500 posts. You're wellcome! :-) And no, I don't have the urge to compete, so I only made one appearance, I took post no. 1500. NeoAmsterdam took post no. 1000, and who else who took the round numbers, I have no idea of... So yes, to each his own... ;-) ____________ [color=navy][size=12][b]Those who can, do.
Those who can't, bully.[/b][/size][/color] From here | |
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Just in case you're not aware, the newer versions of the software being used by some of the other projects already does something sort of like this. Rather than multiple pages including all the older posts, it shows only the newer ones. The numbers are user adjustable for the number of posts to hit the trigger, and then the number that display if the trigger is met. The default numbers are to trigger for any thread with 100 or more posts and then display only the first post and the last 75. After the first post, it inserts a message like "Only the first post and the last 75 posts (of the 128 posts in this thread) are displayed. Click here to also display the remaining posts." This has been in the code for some time. However Janus has removed some bugs so his test project does this much better than any of the live projects. ____________ BOINC WIKI ![]() ![]() Dirty John Rackham | |
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So is it true that even though BOINC 5.2 is supposed to be the 'stable' branch, most projects are using 5.3 of some sort for production? ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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I did not think that web code version was that clearly defined. I thought it was always just current CVS at the time of upgrade. I could easily be wrong though. Also by 'some time' I mean back in the 4.xx versions somewhere. Come to think of it I probably meant 'made it actually work' where I said 'removed some bugs' previously. Sorry I was not very percise previously. ____________ BOINC WIKI ![]() ![]() Dirty John Rackham | |
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This has been in the code for some time. However Janus has removed some bugs so his test project does this much better than any of the live projects. with versions X.Y.Z the stable versions Y = even number. with dev versions Y = Odd number. At least that's whats been said on the SETI forum. ____________ ![]() | |
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with versions X.Y.Z the stable versions Y = even number. with dev versions Y = Odd number. At least that's whats been said on the SETI forum. That's the numeration for the BOINC client that people have on their computers. Then you have the BOINC Server version, which at presently is at 5.3 (as far as I know). So you have the BOINC Client for PCs/Macs: 5.2.x = stable release client 5.3.x = unstable alpha client And you have the BOINC Server version: 5.2 = old version 5.3 = new version It's not that difficult. ;) ____________ Jord. The BOINC FAQ Service. | |
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with versions X.Y.Z the stable versions Y = even number. with dev versions Y = Odd number. At least that's whats been said on the SETI forum. Right, but what I'm wondering is if this is just theory, or reflects actual practice. ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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So you have the BOINC Client for PCs/Macs: Well, I guess I missed the distinction between how the numbering was being used separately for the client and the server software. We will upgrade to 5.3 once I get the time to do it. ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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The top menu bar is a little messed up. | |
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Forum change request: | |
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Is it possible to change the code on the "reply to this post" code in such a way that the quoted text is selected, so when people start typing that the selected text is deleted?... This would certainly be useful, and I can think of a simple thing to try here (that is what we are here for): make the outer [ quote ] block actually begin with [ OFF_quote ] or something similar, and the user has to actually change the tags to edit the quoting. Anything between those unchanged tags is removed. Maybe there is something better than "OFF_quote", like "EDIT_THIS_quote"? Maybe every level of quote should be this way? Then the poster would really have to edit the post just to quote things, and hopefully most would take the time to do it right.
This is hard to do, and varies between platforms. It is likely not possible without using JavaScript, which I try to avoid when possible. Starting a reply with a 'dead' quote would be fairly easy to implement, so we could try it. ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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Another feature request. I just managed to get my own tag over on Primegrid. Is it possible (or maybe I should ask: wanted?) to have custom tags? | |
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[/quote] tags? ;)[/quote] I think the rule wiould be that when replying all the quote tags would be turned into [TRIM_THIS_quote]. Anything between a [TRIM_THIS_quote] and [/TRIM_THIS_quote] would be removed when posted, to force editing. But somebody might just delete that first tag and skip the rest. Not to worry, we then also remove anything up to an unbalanced [/TRIM_THIS_quote]. You have to have the right balancing of quotes, and it will just be easier to trim the quoted material. I'll wait to try this after we upgrade to the latest version of the forum code, to avoid having to merge the changes in twice. ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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My ideea: In "Last Post" column add link to thread with name where was last post wroten. ;) | |
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Look at that. Team name and country of participant in the sidebar. Since when did that show up? I like it. :) | |
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Yeah! It's very cool ;) Nice change! I like it too. | |
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Or create your own team to make your own custom tag. | |
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I try to show my idee: How to improve Last Post Table | |
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I try to show my idee: How to improve Last Post Table I'm not sure I understand this proposal. You want to put the date/time of the most recent post in that column, instead of the time (interval) since the most recent post? ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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I'm not sure I understand this proposal. You want to put the date/time of the most recent post in that column, instead of the time (interval) since the most recent post? I think more so than changing it to date/time instead of interval, he's recommending that the thread name be added to the column with the other data. Earlier in this thread, Simek said: Posted 27 Feb 2006 21:19:19 UTC As it is, when you open, for example, Message boards | wish list, you can see how long it's been since the last post, but you still have to open that forum to see which thread that post was made to. EDIT - I think he has in mind something maybe a little bit like http://www.ubuntuforums.org where the "last post" column shows the thread name, poster's name and elapsed time since that post. ____________ I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies | |
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I think more so than changing it to date/time instead of interval, he's recommending that the thread name be added to the column with the other data. Okay, it's worth a try. Do people like this, or is it too busy? ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats | |
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Now all we need is an active spelling checker, a PM (Private Messaging) option, a moneybox and a Buddy List. Plus active emoticons. Although, isn't changing to phpBB easier? ;) | |
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It think that phpBB isn't good solution. All BOINC project websites are in same unique PHP Engine. Adding to this engine phpBB isn't good idea. Message Board must be simply, easy and useful ;) phpBB have too much options and i think it's to much expand. | |
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Do people like this, or is it too busy? You can add me to the "I like it" list. ____________ I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies | |
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The new feature looks good to me. | |
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